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Sometimes you have to blame yourself!

15 February 2008 | Talked About Features | The Stage | Gareth Stokes

South Africa’s infatuation with consumer rights seems to be spiralling out of control. We agree that many big companies employ unethical marketing and sales tactics to exploit the poor and ignorant; but don’t believe consumers should be absolved of all bl

The result is that many Vodacom customers have ‘lost’ thousand of rand. Although the competition is almost over, the National Lotteries Board is now in on the act. Alerted by various media reports they allege that Vodacom is running an illegal lottery and have threatened to take the matter to court.

How to blow R48 000

Court action or not, it will be too late for those customers who got carried away. The Rapport newspaper recently carried a story about one such individual who spent R48 000 on entries to the competition. A 37 year old woman was also reportedly R27 000 in the red… And there must be hundreds who have dropped a thousand rand or more.

An example of the SMS soliciting entries to the competition reads: “The clock is counting down – Don’t miss this chance to win an amazing BMW 320i from Vodacom – Simply SMS “Yebo” to 3###7 – R10 an SMS – Free opt-out – SMS “Stop” to 3###0.” Is this plea really compelling enough to ‘force’ someone to enter a competition 4 800 times? We don’t think an individual who bashes the send button on his cellphone with such dedication deserves any sympathy.

While we maintain that customers should answer for their actions we cannot totally exonerate Vodacom. One of our concerns is how Vodacom could allow any of its users to amass bills as high as R48 000. They have a sophisticated billing infrastructure which should cut the subscription (or at the very least result in human intervention) well before such totals are reached. There is no doubt Vodacom wanted its subscribers to partake in the competition as much as possible. Shameel Joosub, managing director of Vodacom SA told SAFM “The way the competition works – obviously the more entries you have into the competition, the more chances you have to win the car.”

Money for nothing

Many irate Vodacom subscribers believe they have been fleeced. But according to Joosub the competition was not about money: “The purpose of the competition was really to encourage the uptake of data and to really give back something to our customers – we gave R5m as part of the Christmas campaign to charity… so it was part of a whole bigger promotion,” he said. So it wasn’t about the money?

We find that hard to believe… Earlier during the discussion Joosub made this alarming statement: “I think we’ve had less than 5% of our customers actually take up the competition, and of those customers they generally sent an average two to three SMS’s per day.” Using the above admission, we performed a few basic calculations to establish how much money Vodacom could potentially rake in. We first determined how many customers could take part. Vodacom’s results to December 2007 show a total of 23.297m South African subscribers – of which 3.409m are contract subscribers. Let’s forget pre-paid fro the moment and consider that if five percent of the contract base responded to the competition there would have been 170 450 competition participants. If each competitor entered just once on a given day they would have a 1 in 170 450 chance of winning the car.

However, if each of these entrants sent three entries per day, Vodacom could have ‘banked’ R5.113m every 24 hours. And over the 100 days of the competition the group could take R511m in gross revenue… Even if Vodacom paid the full retail price for each of the 100 BMWs (a BMW 320i retails for around R271 500) they would still have netted a cool R484m! And that’s a huge amount to earn from a ‘promotion’

Editor’s thoughts:
We were quite surprised when we heard that the Lottery Board wanted to take Vodacom to task for running the competition. Apart from the fact the competition has practically run its course the Lottery Board’s track record is hardly something to write home about. Their recent attempts to end FNB’s million-a-month account failed dismally. Do you think Vodacom’s competition flouts the law; and are they to blame for the excessive amounts some of their customers spent? Add you comment below, or send an email to gareth@fanews.co.za

Comments

Added by NC, 03 Mar 2008
i believe this was a monemaking scheme from vodacom and the way they asked more and more mony to better your chanches to win the bmw is not acoording standard procedures. it costed me and my wife nearly R1000. you dont expect this from a firm like vodacom rather from this shady investors
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Added by Na, 03 Mar 2008
Yes the customers must answer . If it was a usual comp or promo but it wasnt. those that entered in2 the thousands u mean were out just to act crazy.no they were promised something.no matter how much money some have they can never have enough.the old saying the rich get richer the poor poorer .is this still the case in 2008.then rather send all of us that tried to win to better our standard of living by believing in a well known co.as vodacom for a mental evaluation because we were not misled we just all became unstable at the same time so s.a. has an epidemic more will need grants
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Added by Xplain, 03 Mar 2008
Shameel dont go calculating if a participant could have entered once a day .does somebody understand i foned 082111 for queries spoke 2 so many agents lost track of names but u say conversations are rcorded bet u wil erase my conversation i was TOLD BY A CALL CENTRE AGENT "U CANT WIN WITH ONE ENTRY"
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Added by Confusd, 01 Mar 2008
I read a little statement on a comment made by a Mr Neil Hutchinson spokesman for WASPA. Something about vodacom not running an illegal lottery by charging R10 a sms.fine and well but what about the codes of conduct breached eg.should not involve multiple entries.should not basically imply that one is winning.should not over exaggerate your chance of winning.should imply one entry as having a chance.No Wonder i emailed WASPA 5times;phoned them 4times and electronically submitted complaint forms twice. I GOT 0ZERO replies .pls someone out there what is waspa 4? Help confused again . Yeah right
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Added by Responsibility, 29 Feb 2008
4get about responsibility what about vodacoms as a reputable co .4get about the money spent on entries .take in2 consideration a man on the street knowin very little law if he scamd he wud get the full xtent of the law he wud pay back the money or his potential victims wudnt b askd 2 pay him 4 the scam .shameel joosub says if entries enterd 1 then that cud b. ShAmeel u wernt allowd 2 they said so .vodacom uve done some nice things in the past do something better now admit a human error and clear the air make right we loyal customers that trustd yr evry word smsd may stand by u
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Added by MS, 29 Feb 2008
To all the Vodacom people who feel cheated - send your details of your gripes with the amount you feel Vodacom cheated you out of to : Attorney Pieter van R Coetzee - enquiries@lawprocedure.com The services rendered will be free of charge and at the sole discretion of the legal team involved and any costs incurred will be recovered from Vodacom or any of its associates or partners. All that is required from you is possibly the signing of a statement to confirm your claim and your continued support in this matter which concerns thousands of people affected. At present they are considering the appointment of a legal team. The more people who respond - the better !!!!
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Added by D, 29 Feb 2008
I understand all the views of the people who say no one forcd u . tru.but i have never come across a competition like this i only heard it was a game when i entered google becoz of the irregularities no call centre agent told me there was even a site and wen i discovered it i actually ended the name 4 the agent.there was no comp tel line and u cud dial 082111 agents were friendly but didnt much info about so calld promo.I HAD SUCH RESPECT 4 VODACOM THEIR GLOSSY MAG AND SWEET MEERKAT ADS who will question such a co.SO NEVER JUDGE a book by its cover.CANT U all just admit its a mistake make amends and move on.hopeful
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Added by D, 28 Feb 2008
Please we understand english vodacom wen u smsd me as as basically winning the bmw because its waitin 4 me as soon as i emaild customer care 2 say im xpectin 2 win u blokd my sim the day after .u broke the law u are a criminal u not a small person unaware face it rturn the money scrap the accounts or give me my bmw .by the way i askd in late jan wen yr comp ends u sed end of july how wen u wer down 2 say 68 bmws wer u intendin on xtendin the fleecin
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Added by Disgustd, 28 Feb 2008
Yes my dad and mom dont gamble and i rememba my mum jumpin up each time durin dec . 2 read this sms invitin her 2 enter a comp its a small fone my mom didnt scroll 2 c some opt out no after erasin so many she enterd hell they personalisd the rplies and wen she enterd jus once a day it rplied come back in2 the game winners dont quit quitters never win the call centre even told my mom u cant win with 1 sms .vodacom broke the law thats the truth vodacom knows the rules no casino says u will thank yrself 2morrow 4 spending more.they xaggeratd the chance of winning.u blokd my moms sim prove 2 us vodacom besides u stoppin my mom enterin daily my blockin didnt u take her chances of winning away by wanting money by debit a month b4 time .is that subtle blackmail.our bmw pls.u breachd yr contract as a service provider where did my dad sign 4 this contract.Y didnt u sms rules 4 yr comp.u owe us a car we owe R00.000
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Added by CL, 19 Feb 2008
Firstly, I have never entered any completion via the cell phone route or where one has to pay money. I believe I have to work in order to obtain financial gain. I strongly support taking Vodacom to task and should they be fined a R100 million rand like Tiger Milling the exercise was still worthwhile. Now if you and I were to try something like this we would be incarcerated for such blatant fleecing of the public merely because we do not have the financial clout to back us up. I wonder how much sniggering and rubbing of hands in glee takes place in boardrooms. It is quite appalling that this type of business practice can go on without the authorities classing it as unfair business practice. Many network marketing businesses have been maligned for being illegal and for good reason. The authorities have just recently introduced the new credit act to prevent the public from themselves, surely there should be a limit where people are not permitted to go beyond a certain point as you pointed out about the lady who spent R48,000 trying to win a car. When someone drinks too much in a pub the barman whose income is dependent upon sales will intervene and say, “You have had enough I am not selling you anymore drinks”. A boxing referee has so stop the fight when a boxer has had too much, even though there are times when the public might think the fight should have continued a little longer. Where are the days when man still had some compassion on his fellow man?
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Added by Oli, 17 Feb 2008
I was really suprized to read on the vodacom site that certain people complained about the competition " Promotion" or what ever you might call it. I am also one of the customers that played a lot of money into this competition to win a BMW. I am not complaining about the amount that i have so far lost, but about the way that you make the draw's. I clearly understand that your chance to win the BMW with the draw is very remote, but i see nobody complaining about the fact that your smsess state that once a week on a Sunday there is no draw and that the person with the highest entries wins the BMW. I wish to mention that lately it is stated that on a sunday there is 2 BMW's given away namley one in the draw and one for the most entries. My questions on this competition is simply if there is a winner each day - where does the draw take place? Are we not invited to attend the draw and why is there only one winner smsed to me on a monday. I am also starting to get sceptic about this competition since I have already between 2 and 3 million entries. I see on the site that some people also ask if the number of entries get carried forward as I think with my number of entries I should have qulified for the person with the most entries on a sunday. If there are people that have already played R40000 or more as i read on Viodacom's site then I regret to think that nobody can win a BMW with the most entries because where does it stop? I am gladly awaiting your reply as I would hate to think that Vodacom is taking us for a ride by just taking our money and never pay out the prizes as stated in the smses to us Thank you Oli
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Added by CW, 16 Feb 2008
I think that people should contact the Credit Ombudsman as this should also be against the National Credit Act -How can they extend credit to such a large amount? Just a thought - I wonder how the Credit Ombud will feel??
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Added by Vodacom Sucker, 15 Feb 2008
Agreed - but another point to note is that Vodacom's Joosub has made statements to say that Vodacom did in fact notify the client of excessive sms use - this is a blantant lie - Vodacom Customer Service inform a different story of when questioned as to why they did not sms in the peak of the competition and they are only starting to sms now - their answer - This is a NEW initiative as customers were complaining about the high bills - fine time now! Do you really think that clients who received notification via sms that their sms bill reached "X" amount would have continued sending sms's.... Very clever marketing ploy from Vodacom - once bitten twice shy! If Vodacom dont do something the WILL LOOSE loyal customers.
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